Mitch recently name-checked his fellow Minnesota Organization of Bloggers member GOP Mommy, a pro-life purist unafraid to proclaim (albeit pseudonymously) abortion equals murder.
We exchanged emails; she confirmed her adherence to the above formulation. I then asked: When you enact your preferred law banning abortion, what will be the punishment for a woman who voluntarily seeks out--and obtains--an illegal abortion?
The blogger responds that she only wants the law to go after the abortionist [not the murder-seeker, i.e.]. And GOP Mommy wants the abortionist's transgression 'handled like an ethics complaint.'
The 'pro-life' blogger says that the abortion-seeking woman can't be held liable, since she's done nothing but 'seek information'. (She will reverse herself later on this point, while denying ever having veered from her latest about-face.) A certain emotional coloration enters with:
For the record, I don't have to justify myself to you.
Furthermore, I believe that women having an illegal abortion should absolutely be punished, that is not even debatable-but I am also incredibly concerned about the person performing the abortion as anyone that has taken the hippocratic oath to protect life, but ends a life purposely should lose their practitioners license and should find a new career. Just like how the government prefers to deal with the illegal immigration issue by punishing those that employ illegals, sometimes it makes more sense go after those that allow the problem to be a problem.
Until you have a uterus, don't bother to question me. I am a mother. THAT is why I am pro-life instead of pro-murder.
In the above we observe the standard local 'conservative' victim-response, when asked to defend their publicly-stated positions. The woundedness continues with:
If you refer back to my original email, I was quite upfront about my position. I never said I don't want the abortionist to go to jail, on the contrary, I believe they should face whatever criminal charges the DA would be able to bring. As in the case of the doctor that killed Michael Jackson, not only will he face criminal charges but he will also lose his license to practice medicine. He is doubly punished in that way.
Also, I have never said I don't want the female to go to prison, on the contrary, I believe anyone sick and demented enough to *want* to kill a baby should be segregated from normal society to keep us safer.
I don't think that when abortion is illegal, it is looked at by women in the same way that murder is. If a woman stabs and kills her boyfriend, she knows she has just committed a HUGE crime, but I don't think some women are intellectual enough to understand that killing an innocent baby is just as serious. A few gals making headlines for going to prison for the rest of their lives may be what it takes to give a wake up call to people that think it is okay to fuck around without protection but "are not ready" to be a parent. Pregnancy is preventable.
For the record, she had just written [in her previous email] 'if abortion were made illegal then no punishment would be carried out against a woman seeking an abortion. Asking questions (seeking) isn't a crime.'
GOP Mommy seems to need to argue 'In all cultures all sane adults intuit the immense moral value of a united human sperm and egg cell.' (Rhetorically, she is then saved from having to argue for imposing her religious beliefs upon non-adherents.) So it's an attempt to make the pro-life argument from a secular set of assumptions.
On the other hand, I don't accept that everyone everywhere automatically knows very-early-stage abortion is wrong. As an empirical matter, GOP Mommy is certainly wrong on this point, to say nothing of the fact that most human mothers, historically speaking, haven't even been aware of cellular biology.
All the same, it was nice having a civil, not-excessively-polite conversation with a member-in-good-standing of the right.
Wednesday, February 24, 2010
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